2021-10-13 Meeting notes - Joint OAM / NONRTRIC / SIM SCRUM meeting
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Date
Oct 13, 2021
Attendees
@John Keeney (Ericsson EST)
@Martin Skorupski
@Alex Stancu
Andy Leidy
Arnold Alvarado (NIWC Pacific)
@Chris Dent
@David McBride
Douglass Evans (USN)
Fernando (Fred) Oliveira (Verizon)
Furkan Yuksel
@Hariom Gupta
@Kamel Idir
@Kevin Tang
Louis Raspberry
@marcin krasowski
Mehran Azari
Marcin Wilk (Samsung)
Martial Ngueko (AT&T)
@michal.cmarada@gmail.com
@N.K. Shankaranarayanan
Neil Hoff
@Pawel Slowikowski
Ryan McAllister
Sebastien Determe (AT&T)
@Sonia Sangari
@Timo Perala (Nokia)
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See also / co-located (ONAP/O-RAN-SC/SMO - Meeting)
Co-located with ONAP 2021-10-13 Meeting notes (ONAP/O-RAN-SC/SMO - Meeting)
Contents
Recording
Notes:
Housekeeping:
OSC SMO Meeting Series: Reminder from previous weeks:
OSC SMO calls now move to its own time slot - Thursdays
See OSC RSAC Calendar: https://lf-o-ran-sc.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RSAC/calendars
(Note this meeting to open to anyone, including non-ORAN members)
We will maintain this slot for ONAP Alignment, and try flag issues/question to/from SMO meetings.
NOTE: DST Changeover in coming weeks!
Keep a close eye on the calendars!
OSC Project roundup:
News from OSC TOC call this week
We all remain totally confused about copyright..... will update when we know more
Integration project PTL election ongoing
NONRTRIC (@John Keeney (Ericsson EST))
Work examining ONAP Control Loops as a basis for rApps in OSC ... looking promising
Still have alot of work to do, e.g. packaging & distribution, but working away
ONAP A1 Policy Management: Istanbul JIRA tickets to be closed before release date!
Short introductory-level presentation at ONES 2021
SIM (@Alex Stancu)
Addressing in SMO deployment (see below) (Use hostname, not ip:port)
OAM (@Martin Skorupski)
Working on a basis for an O-RAN topology model
Could be reused in O-RU use case.
@N.K. Shankaranarayanan Does O-RAN Topology include O-RU?
Ref discussions on ONAP Topology modelling, including @Andrew J Mayer
@N.K. Shankaranarayanan Ref discussions in O-RAN WG1 (Cagatay - AT&T)
Not including Core Network.
Issues:
No agreed model, and even if there was it would not suit most peoples' requirements - everyone wants different topology models for their requirments.
Very hard to keep any complete topology model populated & synchronized
Too many layers to have a complete model ... and layering is not necessary accurate.
Must be model-driven.
A model that cannot be populated is useless!
O-DU (@Hariom Gupta (Deactivated))
@Hariom GuptaStill figuring out if 3GPP Yang model can be used.
JIRAs created for cells & VES measurement events
OPS-5G (@David McBride, Doug Evans)
See discussions 2 weeks ago
Introductions:
Andy Leidy, Arnold Alvarado, Douglass Evans (USN), Louis Raspberry, Neil Hoff, Ryan McAllister
Note session at ONES summit
Martial: Will the recordings/slides be available? (Think recordings appear on youtube in a few weeks)
Doug: Spotted interesting presentation re Acumos alignment (ONAP & OSC)
Ref work in DCAE-MOD for reusing Acumos models & work in Acumos to package models as xApps.
ONAP SMO deployment options
Sebastien: Working on
Pull Request on OSC it/dep repo for existing SMO Deployment package
Readme
Scripts
Testing
Trying to reduce footprint
Testing O-RU/O-DU/Topology-Server deployment
VES Collector configuration with SDNC
Pull request coming soon (this week?) for wider review & comments.
@John Keeney (Ericsson EST) & @Xue Gao working together on A1 deployment ... perhaps use existing test suite to avoid having to do new tests?
@John Keeney (Ericsson EST) We are working on modularizing NONRTRIC helm charts, which may affect work here ... ...
Will also look carefully at the current versions in SMO deployment ... Lots of progress already made!
Plan to evolve when modular helm charts are available
Q&A
Copyright & Licensing
SCCL: Any open source project can reuse SCCL artifacts - if they abide by by process for that license
Note SCCL is not an opensource license!
ONAP may want examine/reuse? the work in OSC for supporting SCCL?
Long discussion about 3GPP licensing:
Open/Public != OpenSource != Free
Try to keep functions model-driven as a much as possible so loosely coupled from copyrighted specs/model, so specs are not reproduced/re-distributed.
But this is not possible for the actual function encoding the model (e.g. a netconf server & Yang model) or function simulators/emulators, or POCs
We see no clear path forward for this very long running issue.
We need to be conservative until we have clear guidance / path forward.
Unwilling to risk copyright or IPR infringement
Likely a common-sense reuse approach is possible - with no commercial aspect involved - but we cannot assume this.