2023-01-11 Meeting notes - Joint OAM / NONRTRIC / SIM Community meeting
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Date
Jan 11, 2023
Attendees
@John Keeney (Ericsson EST) (Ericsson EST & OSC NONRTRIC)
@Martin Skorupski (Highstreet & OSC OAM)
@Alex Stancu (Highstreet & OSC SIM)
@James Li (China Mobile & OSC INT)
@N.K. Shankaranarayanan (ONAP TSC)
Pawel Pawlak (F5 & ONAP TSC chair)
@Magnus Buhrgard (Ericsson & ONAP TSC)
@Ranny Haiby (LF)
Bob Heinemann (MITRE)
@Halil Cakal (Ericsson EST)
@Aravindhan Ayyanathan (Ericsson EST)
@Kevin Timoney (Ericsson EST)
@Sonia Sangari (Ericsson EST)
@Carsten Höseler(TU-Dortmund)
@Former user (Deleted) (Fujitsu)
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See also / co-located (ONAP/O-RAN-SC/SMO - Meeting)
Co-located with ONAP 2023-01-11 Meeting notes (ONAP/O-RAN-SC/SMO - Meeting)
Contents
Recording
Notes:
Housekeeping:
Happy new year!
Calendar:
09:00 PST | 12:00 EST | 17:00 UTC | 17:00 GMT | 18:00 CET | 22:30 IST | 01:00 (+1d) CST
OSC SMO project calls now move to its own time slot - alternate Thursdays
See OSC RSAC Calendar: https://lf-o-ran-sc.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RSAC/calendars
See also OSC Meetings calendar: https://lists.o-ran-sc.org/g/main/calendar
(Note this meeting to open to anyone, including non-ORAN members)
We will maintain this slot for ONAP Alignment, and try flag issues/question to/from SMO meetings.
See also OSC AIML Project meeting notes
OSC Project roundup:
News from OSC TOC call last week
https://lf-o-ran-sc.atlassian.net/wiki/display/TOC/#ORANSCTechnicalOversightCommittee(TOC)
Last week's TOC (Thursday):
Cancelled
No update.
This week's TOC (Tomorrow):
No update.
NONRTRIC (@John Keeney (Ericsson EST))
Release G completed before Christmas/New Year break.
Release H Planning continues:
(R1) Service Exposure & Management
CAPIF Aligned Service Registry
Secured/Sandbox execution environment
Controlled access & exposure of service to/from rApps
(R1) Data Management & Exposure
Previous focus on PM data - but will extend to other use cases too
Aim to work with AIML project for Training (and Inference ?) data access
rApp Management
Built on ONAP “Automation Composition” model & platform to implement rApp use cases
rApp-specific extensions needed
Packaging, Onboarding & Orchestration of rApps
rApp-specific packaging & Onboarding
Aim to align with / inform ongoing work in O-RAN (& OSC) about Common App packaging & Onboarding.
(rApps with & without µService)
Overlap with Service Exposure work to examine role of an rApp Manager to support controlled exposure & LCM of µService and non-µService parts of an rApp
Continued A1-Policy & A1-Enrichment-Information evolution (& R1-A1)
A1 Spec evolution
A1-Policy work in ONAP (continues in ONAP London) - candidate for R1-A1(P)
A1-EI management as part of DME - candidate for how to include A1-EI in R1-DME
Sample use cases (rApps)
Requirements Drivers for rApp/R1 development
High degree of cross-project integration activity
Testing, Maintenance & Housekeeping
Function Test & Integration Test environment,
Support integration, deployment & configuration of SMO/Non-RT-RIC related functions & usecases in OSC Integration env.
Project coordination, Documentation, Delivery, Reporting, Cross-project alignment, Community demos, O-RAN Standardization support, etc.
SIM (@Alex Stancu)
Still working on OSC H Release Planning
OAM (@Martin Skorupski)
Looking at OAM Specs from O-RAN Alliance & 3GPP REL 18
e.g. Updating VES stddefined support etc, new versions of SDNR etc.
O-DU (@Hariom Gupta @Vidhu (Deactivated))
No Update
OSC Integration / INT (@James Li )
Plan to use XTesting integration tests with INF project (esp for O2)
RSAC/SMO (@David Kinsey [AT&T])
Ref: 2024 RSAC Meetings
Update from AIML project re Release H plans
Included discussion on overlap/alignment/integration opportunities with NONRTRIC, SMO, Near-RT-RIC, RICAPPs, OAM projects.
Update from O-DU HIgh project re Release H plans
Update from SMO Tacker project re Release H plans
OSC/ONAP
Mentioned this meeting - Unfortunately @David Kinsey [AT&T] cannot attend today - meeting clash.
Upcoming Open RAN workshop
(... will add a link when i find it: https://www.knaintl.com.tw/2023OpenRan/ ??)
AI/ML platform project ()
Minutes & Meeting: Meeting notes
No update this week
See discussion at RSAC this week.
Also some good discussions at this week AIMLFW Project meeting
ONAP Use cases (@N.K. Shankaranarayanan)
No time for an update this week
ONAP / OSC / O-RAN Alliance: Cooperation & Alignment
Discussion: ONAP TSC Would like to better formalize relations between ONAP & O-RAN SC, and ONAP & O-RAN Alliance
@00:13:00 in Recording
Pawel, @Magnus Buhrgard, Bob, @N.K. Shankaranarayanan
Also trying to establish a snapshot of interactions currently
How to improve cooperation
Goal: Avoid fragmentation, improve synergy, avoid duplication, raise awareness
(Unfortunately .. (or fortunately) ONAP TSC & OSC TOC calls are at the same time)
Areas being considered in ONAP: Is there a need to streamline requirements gathering process & cadence, release processes & cadence, integrated platforms vs services, using licensed specs
Same considerations could be looked at in OSC too - to have a 2-way flow of awareness, requirements, software,
For example, there can be a very significant lag between a requirement becoming obvious in one project, and released software being available in the other ... often Many months.
Rule of thumb: A project should only use 'released' software from other communities
It would be better to have a much more flexible, continuous, faster cadence of requirements planning & interim or continuous software releases. (while also keeping the periodic Major Release time scales)
Would be good to have better cooperation between specification work & implementation (pre-spec & post-spec)
Note: Any project - not just OSC - including ONAP - can consume/feedback to O-RAN Alliance on a equal basis
Would be good to better understand if/what 'special relationship' between OSC & O-RAN Alliance. No blocker exists to other projects.
O-RAN Licensing remains an issue for all opensource projects - including ONAP & OSC
Some topics where there is a clear interaction ONAP/OSC - and alignment would be beneficial:
release cadence
non-rt-ric / smo
rapps
oam
orchestration and cloud
simulator (O-CU, O-DU, O-RU)
use cases alignment
integration
license issues
Potential actions
Invite attendees from ONAP REQ and O-RAN-SC RSAC to join the other - Even if just a once off initially
Just a "hello" to start?
Links:
OSC Requirements & Software Architecture Committee: https://lf-o-ran-sc.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RSAC/
ONAP Requirements Subcommittee: https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Requirements+subcommittee
Invite attendees from ONAP TSC and O-RAN-SC TOC to join the other - Even if just a once off initially
Just a "hello" to start ?
Links:
Further discussion in ONAP TSC about ways forward.
Explanation of the difference between O-RAN Alliance and O-RAN SC
Clarify if there is a 'special relationship'
Questions / Comments / AOB:
Follow up Note on opensource/specification alignment: :
@Magnus Buhrgard, @Martin Skorupski, @John Keeney (Ericsson EST)
Would be good to have a separate discussion about how opensource and specification activities could benefit each other better if there was better interactions.
O-RAN Alliance seems like a particularly good candidate to examine this
Lets discuss this further in another call.
No more time this week
Meeting ends