2025-05-13 Meeting notes - Joint OAM / NONRTRIC / SIM Community meeting
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Today: Tuesday at 15:00 UTC
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- NOTE: During the "Daylight Savings Time" changeover periods (US vs Europe vs Asia) the time of the meetings may fluctuate.
- Summer (northern hemisphere) (Q2 & Q3): 8am PDT | 11am EDT | 15:00 UTC | 16:00 BST | 17:00 CEST | 18:00 EEST | 20:30 IST | 23:00 CST | +1d 00:00 JST (Wed)
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Attendees
- Alex Stancu (Highstreet & OSC SIM)
- Martin Skorupski (Highstreet & OSC OAM & RSAC)
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) (OSC NONRTRIC)
- subhash (Samsung & OSC AIMLFW)
- Sunil N (Samsung)
- Saul Gill (Ericsson EST)
- Aravindhan Ayyanathan (Ericsson EST) (Ericsson EST)
- Sri Venkata Naga Phanindra Akula (tu-chemnitz.de)
- Sridhar Rao (LF)
- ... others. Please add yourself
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See also / co-located (ONAP/O-RAN-SC/SMO - Meeting)
Co-located with ONAP 2025-05-13 Meeting notes (ONAP/O-RAN-SC/SMO - Meeting)
Contents
Recording
Notes:
Housekeeping:
- New Zoom bridge - Coming soon!
- Next Meetings:
- As normal for upcoming weeks: Tuesdays at 15:00 UTC
- 20 May 2025 - Cancelled - Will be traveling to OAI workshop in Kista.
- 27 May 2025 - As usual
- 3 June 2025 - Cancelled - O-RAN F2F - Japan
- 10 June 2025 - Martin Skorupski & John Keeney (Ericsson EST) away - Cancel? - Yes.
- 17 June 2025 - John Keeney (Ericsson EST) away - Martin Skorupski will host as usual (tbc)
- 24 June 2025 - John Keeney (Ericsson EST) away - Martin Skorupski will host as usual (tbc)
Calendar:
https://lists.onap.org/g/onap-meetings/calendar
- Issue with Calendars this week! - Will fix.
- Will update invites according to Daylight Savings Time changeover. See above.
- Zoom Bridge
- Will change in coming weeks. Will move to RSAC bridge.
- More details soon. Will update all calendar entries & wiki pages etc.
- Will change in coming weeks. Will move to RSAC bridge.
OSC SMO project calls now move to its own time slot - alternate Thursdays
See OSC RSAC Calendar: https://lf-o-ran-sc.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RSAC/calendars
See also OSC Meetings calendar: https://lists.o-ran-sc.org/g/main/calendar
(Note this meeting to open to anyone, including non-ORAN members)
We will maintain this slot for ONAP Alignment, and try flag issues/question to/from SMO meetings.
See also OSC AIML Project meeting notes
OSC Project roundup:
News from OSC TOC & OSFG & RSAC calls last week
TOC:
- https://lf-o-ran-sc.atlassian.net/wiki/display/TOC/#ORANSCTechnicalOversightCommittee(TOC)
- Last week's TOC (Thursday):
- Short meeting
- This week's TOC (Thursday):
- Set up repos etc
OSFG: (Martin Skorupski)
- Prep for OSFG workshop in Kista - after the OAI summer workshop
- May 23rd (After OAI summer workshop) in Kista Sweden
- OAI Workshop (Wed & Thurs) : Agenda & Register https://openairinterface.org/summer-2025-workshop-the-openairinterface-path-to-ai-driven-6g/
- OSFG Friday meeting: Agenda, Register etc : https://oranalliance.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OAH/pages/3953524737/OSFG+ad-hoc+Meeting
- New LF project call for proposals:
- www.ocudu.org
- Request for opensource O-CU & O-DU - using BSD license.
- US funding opportunity
- www.ocudu.org
- May 23rd (After OAI summer workshop) in Kista Sweden
- Prep for OSFG workshop in Kista - after the OAI summer workshop
- RSAC (Martin Skorupski )
- Minutes: RSAC Meeting notes
- OSC Lab machines (Ivan Seskar)
- In progress but machines not ready yet.
- Lets take a fairly simple ad-hoc approach to booking for now.
- From last week:
- Plan for 8 servers - will look something like this:
srv1.osc.cosmos-lab.org
→ ?? used by O-RAN-SC INT for Tackersrv2.osc.cosmos-lab.org
→?? Environment1 (K-Release: Stable)srv3.osc.cosmos-lab.org
→ ?? Environment1 (K-Release: Stable)srv4.osc.cosmos-lab.org
→ ?? Environment1 (K-Release: Stable)srv5.osc.cosmos-lab.org
→ ?? EnvironmentA (L-Release: Development)srv6.osc.cosmos-lab.org
→ ?? EnvironmentA (L-Release: Development)srv7.osc.cosmos-lab.org
→ ?? EnvironmentA (L-Release: Development)srv8.osc.cosmos-lab.org
→ ?? Experimental → wiped out very day at 00:00 UTC?Example ssh config file
Host o-ran-sc-gateway HostName gw.orbit-lab.org Host o-ran-sc-srv1 HostName srv1.osc.cosmos-lab.org ProxyJump gw.orbit-lab.org
- Make sure to create profile & upload public key for Orbit:
- Ref Ivan's talk at the last F2F 2025-02 O-RAN F2F Paris & Slides
- https://www.orbit-lab.org/userManagement/register
- Connections will be via a jump-host.
- Plan for 8 servers - will look something like this:
- 2025-06 O-RAN F2F Fukuoka
- Aim for a session on collaborative integration - based on work discussed / demoed at OAI workshop & OSFG workshop
- Aim for a session on collaborative integration - based on work discussed / demoed at OAI workshop & OSFG workshop
OAM (Martin Skorupski)
- Working in Dashboard for PM values - from DB - based on IOSMCN integration - with Alex Stancu
- See OAM repo - Change by Ravi
- See OAM repo - Change by Ravi
JIRA:
NONRTRIC (John Keeney (Ericsson EST))
- Working hard on Integrated SMO deployment
- Some questions/discussion about configuring O1 events (e.g. FM, device registration)
- Needed to get O1-CM registration working - so not auto-mounting in SDNC.
- Would be good to align topics/config/namespaces etc.
- First version nearly ready for testing.
- Working hard on Nephio/ONAP/OSC co-location.
- Needs alot of resources - happy to see winlab machines coming on line.
- Still have a networking issue between nephio control cluster (native k8s) & nephio workload clusters (kind k8s) to deploy OAI nodes
- Issue with OAI CM changes not working - Diagnosis Ongoing.
- Next steps will include AI/ML platform integration
- To support ML inference service LCM via AIMLFW (as well as rApp manager)
- To help demonstrate training & model management etc too
- Should work with Alex Stancu to have some observable configuration change possible in simulator - but needs to be designed.
- Some questions/discussion about configuring O1 events (e.g. FM, device registration)
- Struggling with AIMLFW Model-Management-Service - seems to be returning 200 code - but model is still not present in modelservice
- Still working on sample rApp - limited functionality - just a requirement driver for now.
JIRA
SIM (Alex Stancu)
- Working away on integration & Hybrid O-RU (working on demos with OAI & Benetel(?) RU)
- Driven by TIFG use case defn (JSON based)
- Nearly to ready to demo
AI/ML platform project (subhash)
- Working on dynamic pipeline / platform
- Integration & ES usecase
- Minutes & Meeting: Meeting notes
SMO (Seshu Kumar Mudiganti)
- Meeting notes Meeting notes
- No specific update
Topology & Inventory: (John Keeney (Ericsson EST) :
- See vDTF presentation next week (TEIV/NCMP/SDNC)
- Will be integrated into SMO-install mentioned above
vDTF event this week:
- ONAP DTF DAYs 2025
- https://linuxfoundation.regfox.com/onap-dtf-2025
- See esp. talk on TEIV/NCMP/SDNC integration (John Keeney (Ericsson EST), Jeff van Dam, Byung-Woo Jun)
- See esp. talk on TEIV/NCMP/SDNC integration (John Keeney (Ericsson EST), Jeff van Dam, Byung-Woo Jun)
Accessing InfluxDB from rApp (Aya Kamal Elbakly)
- DME?
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) Should be DME, DB/query is not currently supported in out ICS/DME solution
- ICS/DME is currently focusing on event-based/streamed.
- Current best way - but not the correct way - is to access the InfluxDBs REST api as a service consumer (rather than a data consumer)
- Would be good to extend DME to support this - but may take time/resources.
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) Should be DME, DB/query is not currently supported in out ICS/DME solution
RSAC Energy Saving integration use case (rApps & AI/ML)
- No update this week - but working away on this.
- From previous weeks:
- Discussion End-to-End Integration
- Good progress made on O1-PM - convert to file format & reuse existing RANPM functions → rApp
- Note: RANPM snapshot images have timed out. !
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) & Aravindhan Ayyanathan (Ericsson EST) - Recreate the snapshots. Good for another 30 days
- Make sure release happens before 30 days & update charts in it/dep
- Note: RANPM snapshot images have timed out. !
- O1-CM:
- When integrated SMO deployment is ready rApp should be able to use NCMP as a wrapper for RestConf → SDNC/ODL
- Exposed via SME to rApp
- Topology:
- Martin Skorupski will create a topology/deployment model - which can then be processed by TEIV to bootstrap the TEIV topology.
- Will help pre-populate the topology & add links etc - where adapters do not yet exist.
- Also TEIV adapter nearly complete; to poll NCMP/SDNC to populate TEIV-OAM data of ODUs/OCU/ODUCell/OCUCell
- Available for rApp to query which DU/Cells to target for Energy saving rather than hard coding
- TEIV can then be queried by ESrApp to get IDs etc & containment info needed - rather than hardcoding in rApp logic
- Martin Skorupski will create a topology/deployment model - which can then be processed by TEIV to bootstrap the TEIV topology.
- AIML
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) & subhash to discuss:
- How & when training happens, & where trained model is stored
- How AIMLFW is deployed as part of SMO
- How rApps ML model is deployed as an Inference service for rApp to use (KServe)
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) & subhash to discuss:
- rApps & xApp
- bimo fransiscus asisi to advise on where the current Apps are - to help identify how to extend for deployment.
- VES collector in SMO
- Can change configuration in integrated SMO (via configmaps - TBC), but need to download & make 3GPP schema files available somehow.
- May need to add a custom step to pull these files during SMO setup. (Similar for other functions where spec downloads might be required before use)
- Can change configuration in integrated SMO (via configmaps - TBC), but need to download & make 3GPP schema files available somehow.
- Will discuss more with fransiscus bimo during RSAC
- Good progress made on O1-PM - convert to file format & reuse existing RANPM functions → rApp
- Discussion End-to-End Integration
Meeting ends 60min