2024-08-27 Meeting notes - Joint OAM / NONRTRIC / SIM Community meeting
Time & Location:
- Time Change: This meeting is now 1 hour later - 15:00 UTC on Tuesdays
Meeting Detail: Times & Joining Info
Today: Tuesday at 15:00 UTC (16:00 UTC in Winter Northern Hemisphere TBC)
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Attendees
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) (Ericsson EST & OSC NONRTRIC)
- Martin Skorupski (Highstreet & OSC OAM)
- Subhash Kumar Singh (subhash) (Samsung & OSC AIMLFW)
- N.K. Shankaranarayanan
- Aravindhan Ayyanathan (Ericsson EST)
- Francesco Davide Lapenta (Ericsson EST)
- Denis G Noonan (Ericsson Software Technology) (Ericsson EST)
- Simeon Wuthier (NIST)
- Amir Arabi
- Varadarajan (Samsung)
- Deena Mukundan (Tech Mahindra)
- Gururajaroa Bandalakunta (guru raja) (Tech Mahindra)
- Srinivas Yanamadala (Tech Mahindra)
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See also / co-located (ONAP/O-RAN-SC/SMO - Meeting)
Co-located with ONAP 2024-08-27 Meeting notes (ONAP/O-RAN-SC/SMO - Meeting) (link unlikely to work after ONAP's Atlassian switchover)
Contents
Recording
Notes:
Housekeeping:
Calendar:
- Time Change:
- This meeting is now 1 hour later - 15:00 UTC
OSC SMO project calls now move to its own time slot - alternate Thursdays
See OSC RSAC Calendar: https://lf-o-ran-sc.atlassian.net/wiki/display/RSAC/calendars
See also OSC Meetings calendar: https://lists.o-ran-sc.org/g/main/calendar
(Note this meeting to open to anyone, including non-ORAN members)
We will maintain this slot for ONAP Alignment, and try flag issues/question to/from SMO meetings.
See also OSC AIML Project meeting notes
OSC Project roundup:
News from OSC TOC & OSFG calls last week
- TOC:
- https://lf-o-ran-sc.atlassian.net/wiki/display/TOC/#ORANSCTechnicalOversightCommittee(TOC)
- Last week's TOC (Thursday):
- fransiscus bimo : OSC Community Lab Topology
- Ifran: ETSI SNS Workshop (Martin Skorupski & DavidK will present OSC & OSFG there)
- This week's TOC (in 2 days):
- No major topic planned yet (AFAIK)
- OSFG:
- Arpit from LFN has a document (for/from some IEEE event(?)) about a possible reference framework, using LF projects.
Will be discussed further next OSFG meeting (Mon 9 Sept)
https://oranalliance.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/OSFG/pages/3482386473/2024-08-26+OSFG+Meeting+Minutes
https://oranalliance.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/132710560/Arpit-Joshipura-LinuxFoundation-OpenSourceRAN.pdf?api=v2
- Arpit from LFN has a document (for/from some IEEE event(?)) about a possible reference framework, using LF projects.
NONRTRIC (John Keeney (Ericsson EST))
- Still working away on issue from previous weeks:
- A1-Controller
- NBI Issues: Last Week WG2 R1 spec for Nov release changes from March version (not backwards-compatible)Still trying to stabilise API for R1.
- May cause disruption to users that have already adopted the New-Delhi or J-Release versions

- May cause disruption to users that have already adopted the New-Delhi or J-Release versions
- Fixed a bug in A1-PMS in ONAP & OSC - Where 'transient' Policies were being deleted when a service is deleted.
- Fix available & preparing tests & patch releases for ONAP (London, Montreal, New-Delhi) & OSC (J at least & hopefully older)
- Fixing an issue with Service-ID (request param) vs ClientID (in auth header) when creating an A1 Policy.
- Updating to SpringBoot 3.3
- Database-based persistent storage now enabled.
- NBI Issues: Last Week WG2 R1 spec for Nov release changes from March version (not backwards-compatible)Still trying to stabilise API for R1.
- Service Manager
- Hoping to discuss/demo (below) boot-strap service exposures at SMO start-up - but its proving a bit more difficult than expected.
- Manual registration via API is still working fine - but currently all Services need to be explicitly registered rather than auto-registered.
- Release K Planning:
- No major update this week ... but will continue with more focus on demonstrators - esp aiming towards next F2F
- A1-Controller
SIM (Alex Stancu)
- Planning to demo Hybrid & Hierarchical OAM at F2f - including interesting issues like VES message translation.
- Hybrid and Hierarchical OAM Architecture
- Uses the new Python platform for O1 & OFH simulators

OAM (Martin Skorupski)
- Working on wiki updates to update model links etc.
- Discussion page: O-RAN YANG published in 2024-06 (awaiting WG5 WG10 clarifications)
- Spotted some issues - See color-coding
- Working on CRs for WG5 & WG10
- Discussion page: O-RAN YANG published in 2024-06 (awaiting WG5 WG10 clarifications)
- Working with Alex Stancu on Hybrid and Hierarchical OAM Architecture (Above)
- Some feedback on OAM functions from IOS-MCN (Ref Meeting 2024-07-23 Meeting notes)
- Will discuss next week.
- Also considering reports of issues & age of some it/dep deployment - esp OAM parts
AI/ML platform project (subhash )
- Minutes & Meeting: Meeting notes
- Working on integrating AIMLFW & NONRTRIC SME & rApps.
- Small update from Demo last week
- Demo: Bootstrapping NONRTRIC SME Service Manager with SMO Platform Services
- Services with path parameters - the format of the returned URL is in form http://domain.com/path1/{pathparam}/path3 etc - not with regular expressions
- Small update from Demo last week
OSC Integration / INT (fransiscus bimo )
- Minutes: https://lf-o-ran-sc.atlassian.net/wiki/display/IAT/Current+Meetings
- Difficult for fransiscus bimo to join this meeting, but martin will update if anything interesting pops up
- Working with O-DU team to get OSC O-DU running in Taiwan lab.
SMO (Seshu Kumar Mudiganti)
No update this week.
Meeting notes Meeting notes
Topology & Inventory: (John Keeney (Ericsson EST) :
- From Last week - Still ongoing
- Working to add new/improved models
- New improved image generation from TEIV models
- Working to add support for grouping/collection in registry & api
- Working to add tagging/classifiers/decorators to help markup & expressive retrieval of data from TEIV
- Need to start working with others in OSC & beyond to help populate TEIV registry with data from their 'sources of truth'
- Hope to make alot of use of TEIV in demos/rapps in K-Release
- Refs:
- From Last week - Still ongoing
RSAC (Rittwik Jana Martin Skorupski )
- Minutes: 2024 RSAC Meetings
- No update this week
Questions / Comments / AOB:
- Deena Mukundan
- Question about CAPIF & Service Manager: How does an invoker update the list of Services/APIs it wants to invoke, after discovery.
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) Current implementation assumes all Invokers (after registration) can discover all services. (Should be restricted to just the service they are allowed to invoke)
- So currently, just go ahead and try access the service. Access to the service may then be locked by API Gateway of Service mesh, to enforce the Service Exposure.
- CAPIF spec does not seem clear about how to do this.
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) unlikely to work more on this in this release
- Limited bandwidth
- John Keeney (Ericsson EST) Current implementation assumes all Invokers (after registration) can discover all services. (Should be restricted to just the service they are allowed to invoke)
- Question about CAPIF & Service Manager: How does an invoker update the list of Services/APIs it wants to invoke, after discovery.
Meeting ends 27 min